Xavier Collins - How To Make Your First £1k on Turo

[00:00:00] Think of ways that you can really test the validity of that idea. You know, people talk about an MVP. Will people pay for that product? Will that idea work? Think about ways that you can kind of test your hypothesis early and quickly and don't be afraid to fail.

[00:00:14] Welcome to Escape The Rat Race Radio. I'm your host Christian Rodwell and this is your ticket to Escape The 9-5. If you feel like you're going to work every day and you can see the tangible impact of what you're doing

[00:00:32] and you feel like you're part of building something that you're passionate about, it's extremely rewarding and it actually doesn't feel like a job. Hey, welcome to another episode of Escape The Rat Race Radio. My name is Christian Rodwell and this week my guest is Xavier Collins.

[00:00:51] Now Xavier is the UK Managing Director for Turo.com, the world's largest pit-to-pit car sharing marketplace with over 11 million members. And Turo connects a community of local car owners with travellers looking for a vehicle for their next adventure.

[00:01:07] And guests can choose from a unique selection of nearby cars, anything from a Mercedes Benz or Tesla for a luxurious weekend away to a city-friendly Mini or a rugged 4x4, allowing the hosts to earn extra money which they can either offset the costs of their car ownership

[00:01:26] or any number of other things. And Xavier shot up the ranks in the gig economy playing a pivotal role in the national growth of Deliveroo before joining Turo to lead its UK expansion.

[00:01:40] And as general manager for the south of the UK and head of UK market launches for Deliveroo, Xavier built a business from a team of just two doing less than 100 orders a day to a team of 20 doing over 10,000 orders a day in only two years.

[00:01:57] And he also went on to run Deliveroo's latest vertical Deliveroo for Business, signing up major clients such as Facebook, Google and banks like Credit Suisse. And he also played a significant role in Deliveroo turning into the £2 billion success story that it is today.

[00:02:15] So in today's episode, Xavier talks us through how simple it is to use Turo to begin generating a monthly income from the cars that you own. Without the need to find your own customers or do any of the marketing,

[00:02:27] you can simply leverage the platform and begin making money within a matter of days. Now this is such a great way for you to start creating multiple streams of income because you'll be hearing from one of the Turo hosts, Carlo Miceo,

[00:02:41] the extra income that you can generate from Turo every month can either be used to fulfill your desire to travel more or you could simply use that income to start growing your asset base in other areas.

[00:02:52] So I'm excited for you to hear today's episode and if you decide to give Turo a test drive and start making some money from it, then I'd love to hear from you.

[00:03:02] So I'm sure to post an update inside of our Escape the Rat Race private Facebook group for everyone else to see. Okay, this week's freebie. Okay, well, it's not technically a freebie, but if you haven't yet used Turo before,

[00:03:15] then go ahead and download the app by heading to your mobile app store and searching T-U-R-O. Then simply enter your location and take your pick from thousands of different makes and models which you'd like to look of

[00:03:29] and enter code RATRACE25 in checkout to claim a £25 discount on your first booking. And that code again is R-A-T-R-A-C-E-25. Okay, let's do this. Let's head on over to today's conversation with the UK director for Turo, Xavier Collins.

[00:03:54] Hey, Xavier. Welcome to Escape the Rat Race radio. How are you doing today? I'm great. Thank you. Thanks for having me. No worries at all. Now where in the world are you right now? I am sitting in London in the United Kingdom just near Oxford Circus.

[00:04:11] Well, we're not too far away. I'm down in Wimbledon so we can almost lean outside the window and give each other a wave. So great to see today, Xavier. And I'm really looking forward to today's episode because we are talking about how to make your first £1,000 on Turo.

[00:04:28] And some of our listeners might be thinking what is this Turo? And we're going to get into that. We're definitely going to get into those details a little bit later.

[00:04:35] But before we do that, would you mind just giving everybody a little bit of background as to your history in business? Yeah, I'm happy to. First of all, I love the concept of escaping the rat race. I think it's probably something that's quite dear to my heart.

[00:04:54] I got my start. I was at law school in Australia and I started off going into a big corporate law firm and I very quickly realised it wasn't for me.

[00:05:10] And so whilst I was finishing up my studies, I actually founded a business with some friends that was a marketplace for university students called Nexus Notes. And the idea was how could you sell your course notes online?

[00:05:25] So if you'd written really good tutorial notes or you'd prepared really well for an exam, could future students benefit from your hard work? And it was a good way to kind of help students make a few extra dollars on the side.

[00:05:39] And so I kind of got the entrepreneurial bug through that process. We were lucky enough to get into an accelerated program and I ended up launching the business in the US. It still runs today, which is great.

[00:05:55] Sort of around that time as well, when I was still deciding whether to go full time on Nexus, I was lucky enough to join Uber in Australia as one of the first people there.

[00:06:09] And so I was really lucky to be there at a time when UberX was just launching and this concept that you could drive, but you could get in the car with a stranger who could drive you from point A to point B seemed absolutely insane.

[00:06:25] And I was there to see that kind of take off. I guess just in recent years, while after I decided to take Nexus part time, I was again very lucky to join Deliveroo in the UK at a time when it was still very small.

[00:06:43] So I joined there when it was about 50 people in a small office in London. Over the next two years, next two to three years, I saw it grow into the global massive billion dollar company you see today.

[00:06:58] And then I was fortunate enough to run the south of the UK for those guys and then left Deliveroo to set up and run Turro in the UK. And obviously Turro is the world's largest car sharing marketplace that helps owners make money from their car. It does, yeah.

[00:07:17] And I'm going to share a little story as well in a moment about my experience with Turro.

[00:07:23] And then we can go into some detail as to what exactly it is, how it works and how our listeners can leverage this website to start making some money alongside their full time job

[00:07:35] because this is just such a perfect opportunity in my mind for helping people who have got that kind of entrepreneurial itch but don't quite know how to get started. Maybe you've never run a business before.

[00:07:46] This is a great way to start generating some recurring income, gets some confidence and then start to learn how to market and some of those key skills which I think we'll go into as well. But a couple of questions for you with regards to Nexus.

[00:08:00] I think such an important lesson there for anyone listening and for all entrepreneurs is identifying a problem that you can see or that you have yourself and then just asking yourself the question, how would I do this differently?

[00:08:14] And it sounds like perhaps that was how Nexus Notes came about. You were in the situation and you just thought, hey, there's got to be a different way of doing this or a solution here. Yeah, I think it's a really good insight.

[00:08:26] I think the best businesses start from problems in a personal. If you can really get in the mindset of someone that's affected by a challenge and then thinking of ways to solve that,

[00:08:41] it helps you understand your customers and helps you better relate to what's the kind of mission that you're on. I was at law school at the time when I was fortunate enough to have really smart friends in the years above me

[00:08:57] who would often help me out if I had a problem with a particular subject, sharing some notes they'd written on it or giving me tutorials and then I actually went on myself to be a law tutor and a tutor in philosophy.

[00:09:12] I recognized that there was a lot of students out there looking to access this information but who didn't necessarily have the ability to tap into it. Think about international students or people who didn't have as many friends on campus or whatever it was.

[00:09:31] The idea was how could we create a marketplace that connected really intelligent students with people looking to learn that information. Exactly to your point, from living through it on both sides, it empowered me to think about how could we solve this in a smarter way for more people.

[00:09:52] I'm guessing that's how the founders set up Turo as well is seeing a problem there in that vehicles sit around being unused half the time and there's a better way to leverage that.

[00:10:07] Tell us a little bit about how did that grow and the initial idea turn into the huge business that Turo is today? Yes, I think it's again you're exactly correct. The founding story of Turo is quite interesting.

[00:10:22] Turo was founded in 2009 so it's been around for a long time now. We've grown to 11 million users worldwide but it started from very humble beginnings which was Shelby, our founder, he was at Harvard Business School at the time

[00:10:42] and he was trying to leave Boston to go home at Christmas to see his family and he was walking down the street trying to find a zip car. Boston in the middle of winter can be extremely cold and so there was snow blowing from all directions

[00:11:01] and as he was walking trying to find the zip car for miles he realized that he was passing streams of cars that were just sitting there idle. The key insight there was that there's 1.5 billion cars there in the world today

[00:11:19] there's 40 million cars in the UK and they actually sit there idle 95% of the time and so there's a huge economic value just sitting there waiting to be unlocked

[00:11:31] and so his kind of light bulb moment was how can we better enable people to one, kind of offset the cost of car ownership or make money from their car that's sitting there not doing anything and two, how do we give people better access to vehicles?

[00:11:49] And so from a convenient standpoint there's a really great opportunity with Turo because as I said there's 40 million cars in the UK and I just think about London walking around the streets

[00:12:04] it's now the case that we've grown so quickly here over the last year that when I opened the Turo app I'm able to find and hopefully unlock and go a car within 10 minutes walk of me.

[00:12:18] Yeah so I'll tell you just my story and it only happened last month. I went over to America, I went to attend a marketing conference in Phoenix, Arizona and I was in the Facebook group and there's a marketing guy called Jeff Walker

[00:12:34] and there was Facebook group of about 600 people and I posted in there said hey I'm from London I'm heading over to Phoenix you know really looking forward to seeing people and then someone told me hey you know the Grand Canyon is really close by

[00:12:46] you should go and visit that whilst you're over and they said here's the place to go and rent your car from and they put the link to Turo and not only you know where the cars amazing I got myself like this really nice convertible BMW cruising around

[00:13:03] but just so affordable and it's the experience is just so much better than you know going to a car rental company and I had a fantastic time and it was great

[00:13:14] and I didn't realize until I got back to London that of course Turo were over here as well and speaking to Xavier and realizing just how big this was and it's growing I guess at a pretty rapid rate too. Yeah I mean that's awesome to hear.

[00:13:32] I had a very similar experience earlier this year I actually went to a friend's wedding in Hawaii and I booked through Turo and I ended up getting a I booked a convertible Jeep Wrangler

[00:13:43] for about $40 a day from a local guy who met me at the airport you know handed over the keys and told me about the best features to go to and kind of off I went and it was just so easy

[00:13:55] and yeah I think that's when you know Turo really comes alive is when we can create really great experiences for guests like that. You know I think in terms of the growth side of things yeah it's been you know it's been an incredible journey

[00:14:10] I mean as I said 11 million users now globally we launched the UK only last year in September 2018 and we've actually just passed the 200,000 user mark and I think the reason why we've grown quickly is because we are trying to solve a problem

[00:14:28] for both sides of the equation so you know for car owners what we're trying to do is put money back in their pocket and really create you know a pretty strong revenue stream from an idle asset

[00:14:41] and so Airbnb has done a great job of pioneering this sharing economy and pioneering this idea with homes you know renting out potentially a spare room in your flats really there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to do the same thing with your car

[00:14:57] and so from an owner perspective you know we're seeing that the average owner in London right now is making about 500 pounds a month sharing out their car between 8 and 12 days for a month but from a perspective what we're trying to do to your point is really three things

[00:15:17] one is create really good value for money you know I think it should be the case that you can get the perfect car for your next adventure and it shouldn't have to cost you an arm and a leg the second thing is building really great selection

[00:15:30] so I think there's about 650 different makes and models now on the UK and the UK platform there's over 850 worldwide meaning that you can get anything from a mini to go around town to a Land Rover Defender when you're up in Scotland

[00:15:47] and the last point to touch on what you said about traditional car rental is experience and so from a guest perspective you know we're trying to make it as seamless and as easy as possible

[00:15:58] to access a vehicle we're in this new world where you know car ownership is declining less and less people are relying on cars to move around their cities or to move around areas

[00:16:08] and so if we can you know throw an app on your phone be able to seamlessly connect you with a car owner and have you approved to drive in five minutes enable you to unlock that car through your phone for example and go

[00:16:24] it means that you know people are definitely going to choose that over wedding in line of the car rental counts are filling in lots of forms being confused by different insurance policies so that's kind of yeah the key things we're trying to achieve I guess

[00:16:38] yeah yeah well certainly from a user perspective the experience was great I ended up having a beer with my host when I dropped the car back off at the end so you know almost always made a new friend out of it as well

[00:16:51] but of course today's title of the episode is how to make your first thousand pounds on Churro so how let's just walk through the process for someone listening right now Xavier and let's just say they're working five days a week so they've got you know

[00:17:06] a car that sat out in the driveway what would be the process what would they actually need to do to kind of get registered and then how long does that take and how quickly could they start generating some income from their car

[00:17:19] yeah I think it's a great question and I'm actually really excited to be you know speaking with you today because I think that this really does you know I hope but in really well with a kind of entrepreneurial mindset

[00:17:30] of a lot of people who are thinking about ways to escape the rat race or just smart ways to make money and you know I think you're going to hear from you're going to speak with one of our top hosts later today

[00:17:44] and he'll probably be the best person to tell you how to make your first thousand but you know from my perspective if you're working five days a week you're looking at you know whether it's simply generating a few hundred extra

[00:17:58] hundred pounds a month or you know making thousands there is a real opportunity here to do that there's a few you know simple steps to kind of go about doing that from a owner perspective it's basically as simple as

[00:18:15] if you've got a car you create a profile on our app on our website in much the same way that someone lists their house on Airbnb you go through the sign up flow take photos of your car and create your listing

[00:18:30] we actually offer free professional photography to help you know make your listing look as good as possible you know you really want to make sure that when people are coming to the website looking to book a car that you know your one really stands up

[00:18:45] and if you look at Turro's app now you'll see there's some really great vehicles on there with great photography you know really in depth descriptions and you know a host profile you know an owner's profile who's completed hundreds of trips

[00:19:01] with five star reviews so the first step is as easy as just creating an account and you know creating your listing and then after that you know it's all in your control what will happen is that whether there will be people looking to book your vehicle

[00:19:20] for particular days you can set your calendar to when you want to make the car available you can also set your own pricing I'd encourage people to look at you know the price of cars nearby

[00:19:31] and think about you know one in terms of how much money they want to make from this but also two in terms of being competitive and making sure that there's really great value for money so set the price

[00:19:44] and then step three is that when a request comes in it's just about generating a great user experience and so you know both sides of our marketplace are reviewed the host is reviewed out of five stars and the guest is reviewed out of five stars

[00:19:57] so you can know that the guest booking your car is someone you know you want in that vehicle and there's kind of trust and transparency on both sides but yeah from an owner perspective it's really as simple as ensuring that you know there's great communication, you're reliable

[00:20:14] a lot of our hosts look at going the extra mile they offer things like delivery to where the guest is based or collection of the car sometimes they offer extras like a child seat or whatever it is but really it's as simple as that

[00:20:30] create the listing, try and have good photography put effort into writing a good description and then really build on your five star review rate and creating you know an all-star host profile and if you can do that the opportunity is genuinely massive

[00:20:49] I say to our community of hosts we have host community events throughout the year where it's awesome to meet the people who are really picked up and given to Rogo over the last year

[00:21:02] and it's fascinating to see how much this is now playing a big part of their lives and so it's really encouraging people potentially people who want to start a business or who are thinking about changing jobs this is really an opportunity to have a revenue stream

[00:21:20] to empower them to do that and when you hear about their experiences the ones that do so well they're genuinely really passionate about building their profile and building great experiences for their guests

[00:21:33] and I say to them it's very similar to being an Airbnb host about seven years ago if you can be the early ones in this marketplace now and you're building up the reviews and you're building up your profile and number of trips you're doing

[00:21:46] it means that as the marketplace continues to grow you're going to rise to the top and you're going to create a fantastic opportunity to be one of the most popular hosts on the platform Yeah, yeah and I know our listeners are all about

[00:22:04] trying to generate multiple streams of income I've just mentioned Airbnb as another example but if people are smart here they can escape the rat race by using the assets that they already have in their life and as I've said many many times people who listen regularly

[00:22:20] will know that the smartest way is definitely not just to quit your job and then hope for the best but it's to prove that you can start generating an income consistently alongside your full-time job

[00:22:33] so you don't have that pressure of where's the money going to come from this month to pay the bills you know you've still got that income coming in but you're building up that residual income alongside it and I just can't think of many better ways

[00:22:45] than using something like Chiro to enable you to do that It's really great to hear I think one thing I'm really passionate about is giving people financial freedom I've been really fortunate in my life to work on companies or work on ideas I'm pretty passionate about

[00:23:04] that's enabled me to focus on things I want to focus on it's not always that easy and so if we can help people better make their loan payments or better pay their rents or give them the bit of capital they need to start up a new business idea

[00:23:25] then I'm really passionate about it I think giving that kind of empowering people financially to pursue what they want to pursue is a really great mission I think one important point to mention because it comes up a lot particularly with new people to this website

[00:23:40] and new people to this concept is how does insurance work and are there any downsides or risks I think the most important thing about launching Chiro in the UK was ensuring that we had a really great insurance policy in place

[00:23:53] because if we're going to empower people to have that financial freedom we want to make sure that there's limited risk or downside from their perspective so we've signed an insurance deal with Allianz which is one of the world's biggest insurers

[00:24:11] that covers people up to 20 million pounds third party liability and basically how it works is from the second a trip begins on Chiro to the second a trip ends both the owner and the guest are covered under our insurance policy so it's important when you're signing up

[00:24:30] to make sure that your car fits the requirements for example currently we don't allow cars that are older than 10 years old but provided your car meets the requirements as an owner really this is a great opportunity to get that financial freedom

[00:24:47] and not have to worry about the risk for example of losing out if something does go wrong that's great and we're going to head over to Carlo who is one of the hosts based in London in a moment but before we do that

[00:25:05] Xavier you have very kindly offered all of the Escape the Rat Race radio listeners an opportunity to actually download the app and get 25 pounds off their first booking and the code is Rat Race 25 I'm going to pop that in the show notes as well

[00:25:24] but just let people know where do they need to go how do they actually download the app and how do they apply that discount yeah no happy to so obviously happy to give you give the code I think this is a great show and a great concept

[00:25:39] and so I would love people to have the opportunity to give Turo a try both you know car owners but also people just looking to access a car you know potentially over Christmas for example it's a very busy time for us right now

[00:25:53] and so if there are any listeners out there that need access to a vehicle over the holiday season or anytime in the future it's really simple you just head to Turo.com or you download the Turo app

[00:26:06] you put in your location and the dates you want to book a car for search for the perfect vehicle that you want and then when you get to check out you just enter that code and it should automatically apply a 25 pound discount

[00:26:21] you know you can book cars on the platform from about 15 pounds a day so you know at the lower end I'm hopeful that that's a great opportunity there for people to give this idea a go and yeah I'm really hopeful that

[00:26:38] for a lot of your users this could be a great source of financial freedom yeah no that's really great I was just in the app actually before we started recording and I see you know there's a Mini Cooper in London 24 pounds a day

[00:26:50] so that discount code there is going to allow you to zip around in a really nice vehicle for a whole day try it out, see how you like the concept and then maybe decide that being a host is for you so Xavier before I let you go

[00:27:06] and we head over to have a listen to Carlos experience of using Turo what is one of the things that you love most about being an entrepreneur is for anyone listening right now who's maybe still in the daily grind of the 9-5

[00:27:19] and they're really kind of wanting to break free but something's holding them back what would be your advice for those people listening right now it's a really good question I think the thing I love the most about being an entrepreneur is you have to create a creation

[00:27:36] you know I find it extremely motivating to create something that wasn't there before and that means that you're dealing in a very uncertain environment and there's a lot of challenges that come with that but if you feel like you're going to work every day

[00:27:55] and you can see the tangible impact of what you're doing and you feel like you're part of building something that you're passionate about it's extremely rewarding and it actually doesn't feel like a job I really believe that when you hit that sweet spot

[00:28:09] there's definitely other downsides that come with it it's very stressful, it's very tiring and there's a lot of uncertainty sometimes but I think it's worth it depending on what it is that motivates you in life maybe not be for everyone

[00:28:21] but you actually kind of made the point earlier which is and I think it's a very good one you know I think a lot of people can make the risk of jumping too early and what I would encourage people to do is when they've got an idea

[00:28:39] if you want to pursue something from an entrepreneurial standpoint think of ways that you can really test the validity of that idea you know people talk about an MVP or like you know will people pay for that product or will that idea work

[00:28:52] think about ways that you can kind of test your hypothesis early and quickly and don't be afraid to fail you know but definitely be testing your ideas before you take the full jump there's nothing better than actually failing and learning and getting better that is so so true

[00:29:12] yeah that proof of concept just you know will other people give me some money are they as into this as I think they'll be into it and you've just got to get that feedback haven't you really before you invest lots of time

[00:29:24] lots of energy and lots of money into what you think is a great idea maybe nobody else agrees with you completely agree yeah so just give us a quick intro to Carlo and Xavier so Carlo actually he lives there me he's a great guy

[00:29:42] he actually just did his one-year anniversary on the platform and I feel like it should have been us sending him the cake but he actually sent us a cake to celebrate as one year on the platform I thought was very sweet but he's one of our top hosts

[00:29:55] he provides you know fantastic experiences for guests and I think he's worked his way up to quite a few cars now on the platform and you know I'll let him tell you about his experience but we're very lucky to have him

[00:30:07] and you know I'm really grateful that you get the opportunity to connect yeah great thank you Xavier and thank you for sharing all of the information with our listeners today thank you thank you so much having me Hey this is Chris Ducker Hey I'm Jill Stanton

[00:30:24] Oh I'm Brandon Block Hi this is Piri Marshall and you are listening to Escape the Rat Race Radio Welcome to Escape the Rat Race Radio Carlo Thank you so much Christian how are you? I'm really really good today thank you now we've just heard from Xavier

[00:30:40] and he's talked us through the whole process of Chiro so we know how to actually download the app and tell us a little bit about how you first got started with Chiro yourself so the way actually this all started was

[00:30:55] because I tried to service myself as a customer, as a guest and I kind of thought wow this is pretty you know very straightforward there's no more queuing I don't need to go all the way to the airport to get a good deal on a rental car

[00:31:13] so I generally loved the idea of the Airbnb of cars which is the sort of concept that Turo is trying to bring to the market and so I thought yeah why would I not be able to do it myself so I started it with one car

[00:31:30] it was a bit of let's say for fun initially I didn't really expect to have main cars but now yeah I have five cars at the moment on my fleet and I kind of enjoy a lot the interaction with guests and you know providing good service

[00:31:52] helping people getting moving around the city and outside and how easy was it to get the cars you know kind of profiles uploaded and start actually finding customers well that's pretty straightforward actually it's quite easy so you can sign up on the website in a few minutes

[00:32:11] and yeah basically just by filling some information you're up and running quite quickly and then you're able to let's say upload your first car if you have one or you can buy one to upload on the platform and then yeah Turo does everything to find customers basically

[00:32:34] one of the big benefits of someone who maybe is just starting out is you don't have to learn all about marketing and you don't have to sell and go out and find customers because the platform does that all for you exactly that's exactly how it works

[00:32:50] so it kind of facilitates them the communication between the guest and the owner so they work as an intermediary to bring those two together yeah and I know you're still actually working as well so you're using this as supplementary income every month

[00:33:16] and what is that allowing you to do how is this additional income helping you? Well to be honest it does help me to kind of do the things I love so they're a little bit more travelling you know it does cover some of the outgoings

[00:33:36] for rent, rent is very expensive in London for all of us so it does help and it's something that also allows you to explore what I would say a new opportunity could be income, could be fun, could be whatever you prefer to call it

[00:33:57] yeah and what are three top tips from your experience for someone listening right now Carlo who's thinking hey I really like the idea of this my car is sat on my driveway kind of five days a week I'm at work it's just not getting used

[00:34:12] what would they need to do to really get the best out of Churro? Well I think that the three top tips would be to be open-minded enough to share your car I guess that's one of the main challenges

[00:34:30] you know I think there is a sort of emotional attachment to it when you buy a car you don't want to share it you tend not to share it because that's the sort of mentality that everyone has but nowadays the sharing economy is bringing new opportunities

[00:34:49] so if you consider not using it on a day to day basis then you can definitely put it on the platform the second one would be keep the standards very high otherwise Churro will kick you out basically they really care about providing good customer service

[00:35:11] so they normally check the reviews and make sure that there is an amazing experience on both sides of the platform and the third one would be just enjoy it because if you don't enjoy say the day to the introduction with the guests providing good customer service

[00:35:36] then maybe you should be doing something else and are there any downsides to using Churro is there any experience you've had that hasn't been so great? Well to be honest you have to be a little bit flexible

[00:35:52] for instance myself I don't really care about small scratches on the car or any minor damages I try to look at the bigger picture what I can do with Churro and just have some fun on the end of the day

[00:36:08] so you have to be ready to small inconveniences that maybe can help you overcome adversity which is one of the main challenges in every business I guess or in every life situation so yeah I would say flexibility and then I did have a bad experience to be honest

[00:36:31] but that's something that happened once when the guest left the key inside the car and just took off with the car open left the car open with the key inside but it's just a small thing compared to what Churro can really offer

[00:36:50] which is the freedom of renting your car Yeah and so every month you have just got a steady stream of people, clients coming and picking your different cars and that's residual income that you can almost rely on every month

[00:37:08] Yeah it's obviously like it's a seasonal sort of income and it fluctuates month by month but it's something that I'm looking at now I haven't been doing this for so long I just think that could be the one thing that we'll be doing

[00:37:29] and it will generate enough income for me to provide for a full-time job for instance like full-time job but it's something worth considering of course Fantastic, yeah So for anyone thinking about it what's your final words? So I would say keep looking keep exploring, you know technology

[00:37:55] bringing loads of opportunities out there so I think that we shouldn't be stuck in our jobs in terms of just looking at our screen and our daily routine we should be open enough to explore new things Yeah well done on your success with using Turo Carlo

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